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美国网络公司预计裁员50万

发信人: devil (闲人), 信区: ITnews
标  题: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sat Dec  2 12:06:05 2000), 站内信件


http://www.sina.com.cn 2000/12/02 14:59 上海青年报

  本报专稿/一阳报道:30日,美国《华尔街日报》刊登权威性文章,预测今冬
将会有50万员工被“精简”下岗,其中尤其是网络公司首当其冲,这更使美国人感
到未冷先寒。

  据报道,全球第一大网络咨询公司麦·福斯特日前公布的一大决定震撼华尔街
,该公司宣布将大幅裁员,计1000人左右。这一数字占其全部员工的10%,这是目
前仍在运转的大网络公司中,至今最大规模的裁员行动。无独有偶,其它网络公司
也纷纷跟进,甚至出现了网络公司总裁自己掏腰包,买自己帐户内的股票,以拿钱
当做遣返安置费发放给遭裁掉的员工。眼下,成千上万的大小网络公司仍在苦苦支
撑,但是对他们来说,裁员或者破产只是一个时间问题。美国媒体评论指出,华尔
街股市十年来第一次熊市、网络公司陆续倒闭。

  根据经济学界提供的就业市场的研究报告表明,与其它行业相比,目前,在发
达的网络广告业、电子商务业面临着更大的裁员危机。这是因为这些网络公司都迫
切希望从感恩节开始的年底购物热潮能够缓解他们的资金周转困难,但是如果到年
底甚至到明年初时的情况仍然未能好转,那么这些公司惟一的出路便是让大量的员
工下岗,基于上述分析,在明年初将有更多公司准备裁员、甚至公司本身倒闭。




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发信人: ayanami (发情的蚊子~甲亢中), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sat Dec  2 12:18:35 2000), 转信

早该如此。

【 在 devil (闲人) 的大作中提到: 】
: http://www.sina.com.cn 2000/12/02 14:59 上海青年报
:   本报专稿/一阳报道:30日,美国《华尔街日报》刊登权威性文章,预测今冬
: 将会有50万员工被“精简”下岗,其中尤其是网络公司首当其冲,这更使美国人感
: 到未冷先寒。
:   据报道,全球第一大网络咨询公司麦·福斯特日前公布的一大决定震撼华尔街
: ,该公司宣布将大幅裁员,计1000人左右。这一数字占其全部员工的10%,这是目
: 前仍在运转的大网络公司中,至今最大规模的裁员行动。无独有偶,其它网络公司
: 也纷纷跟进,甚至出现了网络公司总裁自己掏腰包,买自己帐户内的股票,以拿钱
: 当做遣返安置费发放给遭裁掉的员工。眼下,成千上万的大小网络公司仍在苦苦支
: 撑,但是对他们来说,裁员或者破产只是一个时间问题。美国媒体评论指出,华尔
: 街股市十年来第一次熊市、网络公司陆续倒闭。
:   根据经济学界提供的就业市场的研究报告表明,与其它行业相比,目前,在发
: 达的网络广告业、电子商务业面临着更大的裁员危机。这是因为这些网络公司都迫
: 切希望从感恩节开始的年底购物热潮能够缓解他们的资金周转困难,但是如果到年
: 底甚至到明年初时的情况仍然未能好转,那么这些公司惟一的出路便是让大量的员
: 工下岗,基于上述分析,在明年初将有更多公司准备裁员、甚至公司本身倒闭。


--
Software Engineering is an art.

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发信人: devil (闲人), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sat Dec  2 12:41:52 2000), 站内信件

【 在 ayanami (发情的蚊子~甲亢中) 的大作中提到: 】
: 早该如此。

faint ///
他们的衰退也可能是整个计算机产业衰退的开始 or trigger
不过也可能是推陈出新

wait to see ..


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※ 修改:.devil 于 Dec  2 12:42:21 修改本文.[FROM: 204.69.198.34]
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发信人: magicfat (魔法胖子~痛扁Jungle的基地), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sat Dec  2 13:40:44 2000), 站内信件


I don't think so.  It is more like a contraction period, simply
because the technology is evolving so fast and the industry has
boomed to such a size that the users can't catch up, which means
less demand.

In long term though, I still believe that what the entire IT industry
has achieved so far has only led us into the dawn of the "Information
Era".  There are a lot of undeveloped ground out there.  We are
still far from being able to provide information to everybody
at any place.  So far we haven't even figured out how
to present info to regular users and interact with them in such a way
that is determined by the info and the user, instead of the ability of
the technology.

【 在 devil (闲人) 的大作中提到: 】
: 【 在 ayanami (发情的蚊子~甲亢中) 的大作中提到: 】
: : 早该如此。
: faint ///
: 他们的衰退也可能是整个计算机产业衰退的开始 or trigger
: 不过也可能是推陈出新
: wait to see ..


--
他号令便号令好了,又何必安静?

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发信人: aroma (一剑飘香), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sun Dec  3 02:26:41 2000), 站内信件

so u mean the next step is mobile? or wileless?
or just simplize?
if it's the former, the problem is in networking,
if it's the latter, the problem is in application.

【 在 magicfat (魔法胖子~痛扁Jungle的基地) 的大作中提到: 】
: I don't think so.  It is more like a contraction period, simply
: because the technology is evolving so fast and the industry has
: boomed to such a size that the users can't catch up, which means
: less demand.
: In long term though, I still believe that what the entire IT industry
: has achieved so far has only led us into the dawn of the "Information
: Era".  There are a lot of undeveloped ground out there.  We are
: still far from being able to provide information to everybody
: at any place.  So far we haven't even figured out how
: to present info to regular users and interact with them in such a way
: that is determined by the info and the user, instead of the ability of
: the technology.
: 【 在 devil (闲人) 的大作中提到: 】
: : faint ///
: : 他们的衰退也可能是整个计算机产业衰退的开始 or trigger
: : 不过也可能是推陈出新
: : wait to see ..


--

        沉静如水
        坚毅如冰
~

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发信人: dapengz (不败的恋人), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sun Dec  3 05:12:43 2000), 站内信件

do you think that some of the goals you listed are realistic?
why should we even try to accomplish these goals?  i think
it might be better to rethink these goals. :)

【 在 magicfat (魔法胖子~痛扁Jungle的基地) 的大作中提到: 】
: I don't think so.  It is more like a contraction period, simply
: because the technology is evolving so fast and the industry has
: boomed to such a size that the users can't catch up, which means
: less demand.
: In long term though, I still believe that what the entire IT industry
: has achieved so far has only led us into the dawn of the "Information
: Era".  There are a lot of undeveloped ground out there.  We are
: still far from being able to provide information to everybody
: at any place.  So far we haven't even figured out how
: to present info to regular users and interact with them in such a way
: that is determined by the info and the user, instead of the ability of
: the technology.
: 【 在 devil (闲人) 的大作中提到: 】
: : faint ///
: : 他们的衰退也可能是整个计算机产业衰退的开始 or trigger
: : 不过也可能是推陈出新
: : wait to see ..


--
There are three kinds of persons on this planet.  Those who can count and
those who can't.

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发信人: ayanami (发情的蚊子~甲亢中), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sun Dec  3 11:37:32 2000), 转信

Internet is just a mistake, personally, I think we should have invested
all our intelligence, capitals, and whathaveyou to the space exploration
programs. Stop sucking on each other's advertisement money and do some
*REAL* thing.

【 在 magicfat (魔法胖子~痛扁Jungle的基地) 的大作中提到: 】
: I don't think so.  It is more like a contraction period, simply
: because the technology is evolving so fast and the industry has
: boomed to such a size that the users can't catch up, which means
: less demand.
: In long term though, I still believe that what the entire IT industry
: has achieved so far has only led us into the dawn of the "Information
: Era".  There are a lot of undeveloped ground out there.  We are
: still far from being able to provide information to everybody
: at any place.  So far we haven't even figured out how
: to present info to regular users and interact with them in such a way
: that is determined by the info and the user, instead of the ability of
: the technology.
: 【 在 devil (闲人) 的大作中提到: 】
: : faint ///
: : 他们的衰退也可能是整个计算机产业衰退的开始 or trigger
: : 不过也可能是推陈出新
: : wait to see ..


--
Software Engineering is an art.

※ 来源:.The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu.[FROM: 64.32.197.50]
发信人: ayanami (发情的蚊子~甲亢中), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sun Dec  3 11:46:24 2000), 转信

Though the internet and the Evil[tm] wintel inevitably increased the computing
capacity by several magnitude, making the complex space exploration computation
cheaper and faster.
I guess everything is somewhat good no matter what. :)

【 在 ayanami (发情的蚊子~甲亢中) 的大作中提到: 】
: Internet is just a mistake, personally, I think we should have invested
: all our intelligence, capitals, and whathaveyou to the space exploration
: programs. Stop sucking on each other's advertisement money and do some
: *REAL* thing.
: 【 在 magicfat (魔法胖子~痛扁Jungle的基地) 的大作中提到: 】
: : I don't think so.  It is more like a contraction period, simply
: : because the technology is evolving so fast and the industry has
: : boomed to such a size that the users can't catch up, which means
: : less demand.
: : In long term though, I still believe that what the entire IT industry
: : has achieved so far has only led us into the dawn of the "Information
: : Era".  There are a lot of undeveloped ground out there.  We are
: : still far from being able to provide information to everybody
: : at any place.  So far we haven't even figured out how
: : to present info to regular users and interact with them in such a way
: : that is determined by the info and the user, instead of the ability of
: : the technology.


--
Software Engineering is an art.

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发信人: internet (格格巫), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sun Dec  3 18:53:18 2000), 转信

if without internet, IT has never been so hot like today's
situation.
but what kind of REAL thing you suggest?
Surely, internet is for fun actually mostly,
but anything else we can do?
hehe

【 在 ayanami (发情的蚊子~甲亢中) 的大作中提到: 】
: Internet is just a mistake, personally, I think we should have invested
: all our intelligence, capitals, and whathaveyou to the space exploration
: programs. Stop sucking on each other's advertisement money and do some
: *REAL* thing.
: 【 在 magicfat (魔法胖子~痛扁Jungle的基地) 的大作中提到: 】
: : I don't think so.  It is more like a contraction period, simply
: : because the technology is evolving so fast and the industry has
: : boomed to such a size that the users can't catch up, which means
: : less demand.
: : In long term though, I still believe that what the entire IT industry
: : has achieved so far has only led us into the dawn of the "Information
: : Era".  There are a lot of undeveloped ground out there.  We are
: : still far from being able to provide information to everybody
: : at any place.  So far we haven't even figured out how
: : to present info to regular users and interact with them in such a way
: : that is determined by the info and the user, instead of the ability of
: : the technology.


--

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发信人: ayanami (发情的蚊子~甲亢中), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sun Dec  3 19:25:18 2000), 转信

Space exploration! spread the human virus all over the universe!
I feel that is a grander goal and thing to accomplish.
And we can all skip the dot com crap we are stuck with.. ugh.

【 在 internet (格格巫) 的大作中提到: 】
: if without internet, IT has never been so hot like today's
: situation.
: but what kind of REAL thing you suggest?
: Surely, internet is for fun actually mostly,
: but anything else we can do?
: hehe
: 【 在 ayanami (发情的蚊子~甲亢中) 的大作中提到: 】
: : Internet is just a mistake, personally, I think we should have invested
: : all our intelligence, capitals, and whathaveyou to the space exploration
: : programs. Stop sucking on each other's advertisement money and do some
: : *REAL* thing.


--
Software Engineering is an art.

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发信人: fuzilier (二当家的), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sun Dec  3 19:36:03 2000), 站内信件

we cannot enjoy the result of space exploration in our life tyime,
but we can have a lot of fun with internet, which one would u choose?

【 在 ayanami (发情的蚊子~甲亢中) 的大作中提到: 】
: Space exploration! spread the human virus all over the universe!
: I feel that is a grander goal and thing to accomplish.
: And we can all skip the dot com crap we are stuck with.. ugh.
: 【 在 internet (格格巫) 的大作中提到: 】
: : if without internet, IT has never been so hot like today's
: : situation.
: : but what kind of REAL thing you suggest?
: : Surely, internet is for fun actually mostly,
: : but anything else we can do?
: : hehe


--
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发信人: ayanami (发情的蚊子~甲亢中), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sun Dec  3 22:18:14 2000), 转信

What kind of "fun" are you having with internet? I suppose you dont consider
cybersex one of them.
Space exploration can lead to a LOT of advances in physics,chemistry and other
basic sciences, and lead to a totally different living environment for us.

Just imagine.... if you can have your honey moon on moon, instead of a internet
chatroom..

【 在 fuzilier (二当家的) 的大作中提到: 】
: we cannot enjoy the result of space exploration in our life tyime,
: but we can have a lot of fun with internet, which one would u choose?
: 【 在 ayanami (发情的蚊子~甲亢中) 的大作中提到: 】
: : Space exploration! spread the human virus all over the universe!
: : I feel that is a grander goal and thing to accomplish.
: : And we can all skip the dot com crap we are stuck with.. ugh.


--
Software Engineering is an art.

※ 来源:.The unknown SPACE bbs.mit.edu.[FROM: 64.32.197.50]
发信人: internet (格格巫), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Sun Dec  3 22:42:07 2000), 转信

ft,  though I have to agree you
are right, but I have to admit it's
impossible to realize it until
your money can control this world.
hehe.

【 在 ayanami (发情的蚊子~甲亢中) 的大作中提到: 】
: Space exploration! spread the human virus all over the universe!
: I feel that is a grander goal and thing to accomplish.
: And we can all skip the dot com crap we are stuck with.. ugh.
: 【 在 internet (格格巫) 的大作中提到: 】
: : if without internet, IT has never been so hot like today's
: : situation.
: : but what kind of REAL thing you suggest?
: : Surely, internet is for fun actually mostly,
: : but anything else we can do?
: : hehe


--

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发信人: loggie (二黑 努理荷写 特设商或), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Mon Dec  4 01:02:32 2000), 站内信件

资本主义经济危机每隔约12年发生一次

每次都伴随社会资本的重大转移

同时造成社会生产力的极大浪费

【 在 magicfat (魔法胖子~痛扁Jungle的基地) 的大作中提到: 】
: I don't think so.  It is more like a contraction period, simply
: because the technology is evolving so fast and the industry has
: boomed to such a size that the users can't catch up, which means
: less demand.
: In long term though, I still believe that what the entire IT industry
: has achieved so far has only led us into the dawn of the "Information
: Era".  There are a lot of undeveloped ground out there.  We are
: still far from being able to provide information to everybody
: at any place.  So far we haven't even figured out how
: to present info to regular users and interact with them in such a way
: that is determined by the info and the user, instead of the ability of
: the technology.
: 【 在 devil (闲人) 的大作中提到: 】
: : faint ///
: : 他们的衰退也可能是整个计算机产业衰退的开始 or trigger
: : 不过也可能是推陈出新
: : wait to see ..


--
厚积薄发, 秉诚度世

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发信人: Blumlein (幸福是一种传说), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Mon Dec  4 02:32:31 2000), 站内信件

上一次危机是什么时候呢?

偶在SF开会的时候, 一个东东对格林思番深恶痛绝, hehe, 说
美国经济都是被这个倒霉蛋说坏乐, hoho

【 在 loggie (二黑 努理荷写 特设商或) 的大作中提到: 】
: 资本主义经济危机每隔约12年发生一次
: 每次都伴随社会资本的重大转移
: 同时造成社会生产力的极大浪费
: 【 在 magicfat (魔法胖子~痛扁Jungle的基地) 的大作中提到: 】
: : I don't think so.  It is more like a contraction period, simply
: : because the technology is evolving so fast and the industry has
: : boomed to such a size that the users can't catch up, which means
: : less demand.
: : In long term though, I still believe that what the entire IT industry
: : has achieved so far has only led us into the dawn of the "Information
: : Era".  There are a lot of undeveloped ground out there.  We are
: : still far from being able to provide information to everybody
: : at any place.  So far we haven't even figured out how
: : to present info to regular users and interact with them in such a way
: : that is determined by the info and the user, instead of the ability of
: : the technology.


--
<七种武器>,七种不平凡的武器,它们是小马的拳头,长生剑,
孔雀翎,多情环,碧玉刀,霸王枪和离别钩,它们并不是真的常
胜不败,而是代表了友情,微笑,信心,仇恨,诚实,勇气和爱
情。如果我们拥有其中之一,也许我们就能永远不败。

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发信人: magicfat (魔法胖子~痛扁Jungle的基地), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Mon Dec  4 13:36:08 2000), 站内信件


Yes I believe those I listed above will become real in a foreseeable
future(meaning 10-20 years).  At least they are more realistic than
aya's "human virus spreading" project. 8-)

【 在 dapengz (不败的恋人) 的大作中提到: 】
: do you think that some of the goals you listed are realistic?
: why should we even try to accomplish these goals?  i think
: it might be better to rethink these goals. :)

--
他号令便号令好了,又何必安静?

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发信人: microbe (奇妙的微生物), 信区: ITnews
标  题: Re: 美国网络公司预计裁员50万
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Mon Dec  4 18:49:19 2000), 站内信件

【 在 internet (格格巫) 的大作中提到: 】
: if without internet, IT has never been so hot like today's
: situation.
: but what kind of REAL thing you suggest?
: Surely, internet is for fun actually mostly,

No, it's not.  It's for information sharing.

I don't know how tremendously this has increased productivity, at least
my productivity in homework and research :)

: but anything else we can do?
: hehe
: 【 在 ayanami (发情的蚊子~甲亢中) 的大作中提到: 】
: : Internet is just a mistake, personally, I think we should have invested
: : all our intelligence, capitals, and whathaveyou to the space exploration
: : programs. Stop sucking on each other's advertisement money and do some
: : *REAL* thing.


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我在门外坐了两天两夜,看着天空在不断的变化。
我才发现,虽然我到这里很久,却从来没有看清楚这片沙漠。

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